libertarians-and-stoya:
nixonplumbingco:
When more men understand how degrading the patriarchy is to themselves as well as women, there will be hardly a man in this country that wouldn’t consider themselves a feminist.
I agree, that’s why I saw that feminism has individualistic ideas.
The thing is, many feminists dislike women, and play into the privilege politics. They play into the man-hating stereotype, then turn around and act like men should want to smash the patriarchy to.
Why would I join a movement that has people in it already who do not care about how the patriarchy affects me?
Because as someone that doesn’t bear the brunt of the damage of the patriarchy, making it about yourself is a really dickish thing to do. There are people who hate men out there just the same as people who hate women, but really, anti-feminists talk them up to be some monolithic terrible monster when there are far far less of them in the feminist community than most anti-feminists would think.
Besides, there’s a difference between hating men just because of some blind vitriol and vendetta against identity.and hating societies conception of a good man and the products of a patriarchy. I think most of us can agree, the traits that patriarchy forces upon men, no self control, arrogance, dominant attitude in all situations, ignorance and blind loyalty to your own beliefs, and disdain for personal growth and education, are all bad things and are put together to form a very bad person as a whole. Hating “men” in that sense is hating what we are trained to be, and I hate it too. Do I hate masculinity as a whole? Do I hate the Y chromosome? No, of course not and I don’t think even many of the radical feminists hate those things, even ones you may think to be “man-haters”
Really, the illusory man hating feminist is usually more mythical than a living breathing being. Don’t worry about it, people who do are usually chasing phantoms of their own imagination in reality.